Tuesday, September 19, 2006

NEWS: the Pope, Bush and Torture

If the Pope apologizes for insulting Islam, is he still infallible? Of course, as The Times put it, it’s really a case of “German professor meets sound-bite culture.” And then there’s the “breathtakingly incompetent” view of my own Royal Canadian Mounted Police that Maher Arar was an Islamic radical, leading the Bush administration to ship him to Syria for torturing. Is Bush arguing that the US is above the Geneva accords so that he himself in the too-distant future will be spared indictment as a war criminal? Or will it happen soon enough? Where there's brouhaha in Washington, there's guile.


Blogger Kirby Olson said...

Michael, the logic in this one left me in the dust.

Bush, Pope, Torture?

Have you seen the beheadings of the other side?

Have you read what Al Qaeda in Iraq has said? That they will kill every last non-Mulsim in the world?

Have you read Ahmadinjan or whatever his name is? That he wants to erase Israel entirely off the map?

And then kill everyone who isn't a Muslim?

And you think you need to be scared of Bush?

4:53 PM  
Blogger Michael Andre said...

It seems that Kirby agrees with the emperor quoted by the Pope in his speech in Regensburg: http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=46474

5:20 AM  
Blogger Kirby Olson said...

Either/or thinking, Michael.

Shame shame shame.

First, Bush is all bad, and now your friend Kirby is all bad.

Bad, bad, bad.

Shame, shame, shame.

The Muslim journalist Qtub argued that religion and state had to be completely identical.

This is the source of most of the violence.

It doesn't even make any sense.

Religious life, like poetry, is about the beautiful.

Government is merely a necessary evil.

Mixing the two kills them both.

12:27 PM  
Blogger Michael Andre said...

Feminazis and Islamofascists hate Kirby because he is a blue-eyed male Lutheran. Although Martin Luther was the Osama Bin Laden of his day, Catholics like Benedict XVI and myself fear for Kirby's safety on this earth. May he not be martyred!

The Virgin we seek in Catholic heaven is the Lord's mom.

7:30 AM  
Blogger Kirby Olson said...

Brown eyes.

I read the bit by the pope and couldn't figure out what all the fuss was about. He said that there's more to reason than what science tells us.

So let's fall all over one another killing each other.

My problem with Islamofascists and extreme feminist separatists is that they place themselves above me, and in the most extreme cases, would kill me. Not for having brown eyes, but for being a relatively laissez faire Lutheran.

I mean, tell us some day about Valerie Solanas, Michael. Your best buddy?

12:28 PM  
Blogger Michael Andre said...

I never met Valerie Solanas but I did publish Andy Warhol and liked his open Factory. Andy was, of course, a practising Roman Catholic. I'm a blue-eyed Roman Catholic atheist. Dan Berrigan was regaling me and my Jewish wife with tales of his friends in various fringe Left groups, and Erika asked Dan in all wide-eyed innocence, "Is there any group on the Left you dislike?" Feminists, Dan said.

My falling out with Warhol occurred over an interview with Dan for Interview. Dan doesn't really get art. As I recall, Dan has a primitive painting of St Francis in his apartment, and other than that it's souvenirs and books. Dan didn't know that Andy was a "good Catholic." In the interview Dan attacked Andy for living for money. Dan's a Jesuit, and presumed, perhaps, I'd edit that attack out. I thought it was the most interesting part. Worlds collide.

11:15 PM  

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