Thursday, July 26, 2007

The New Great Depression

Bush/Cheney is as sinister as Nixon and as bumbling as Carter. Bush "prays" while America burns. Does the end grow nearer? People die because they can't pay for medicine. As the price of gas rises and more homes are foreclosed, many Americans already live in a New Great Depression.


Blogger Kirby Olson said...

The economy has never been better. It's going great guns. Everyone is going to live forever, anyway, why do you care so much about health? Of course, some are going to burn in hell forever, but that's still life, kinda.

3:45 PM  
Blogger Kirby Olson said...

Give us some statistics at least to back these balding assertions.

12:06 PM  
Blogger Christian Williams said...

The economy has never been better; the economy has never been worse. Kirby you fail to understand how Dickensian the economy has become under the Bush/Cheney Neo-fascist-corporatists agenda. The fact is for the vast majority of Americans things are much much worse and still getting worse. The economy does suck for most Americans except the corporate oligarchy who are making lots of money refeudalizing the planet and turning the American middle class into refeudalized corporate peasants. I suggest you read "Greenspan's Fraud" by economist Ravi Batra c 2005 (very different from the Milton Friedman/Thomas Friedman supply side economic coolaide you've probably bought into.) We've had nearly 27 years of Reaganesque Voodoo Economics and the data is in on it. It's economic coolaide that destroys the middle class, undermines democracy, refeudalizes the planet, and destroys the environment. Bush/Cheney make Eisenhower look like a socialist. But Eisenhower was right when he wrote "Now it is true that I believe this country is following a dangerous trend when it permits too great a degree of centralization of governmental functions. I oppose this--in some instances the fight is a rather desperate one. But to attain any success it is quite clear that the Federal government cannot avoid or escape responsibilities which the mass of the people firmly believe should be undertaken by it. The political processes of our country are such that if a rule of reason is not applied in this effort, we will lose everything--even to a possible and drastic change in the Constitution. This is what I mean by my constant insistence upon "moderation" in government. Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid." From President Eisenhower's letter to his brother dated November 8, 1954. Eisenhower was also right in keeping FDR's & Truman's economic and fiscal policies including traditional economics and the income tax bracket of 91% for those making more than three and half million dollars per year. Such an income tax bracket appropriately prevents the development of intergenerational economic aristocracy and power manipulation by the over-privileged few (like the Bush Crime Family); something the founding father were very concerned about(Read Tom Paine "The Rights Of Man" & "Common Sense". We need to not only rollback the Bush tax cuts; We must also roll back the Reagan tax cuts in order to restore America to fiscal and economic health. I also suggest you read "After The Empire: The Breakdown of the American Order" by Emmanuel Todd c 2002. Both these books will provide for you a good analysis of the problems with America Today and what the solutions are. To quote Todd "As for George W. Bush and his neoconservative helpers, they will go down in history as the grave diggers of the American [economic] empire." from the preface of "After the Empire: The Breakdown of the American Order." Further, Corporatism has significantly supplanted democracy throughout the world and this must be combated head on. So I also refer you to the neo-abolishionist movement to "Abolish Corporate Personhood" and reassert that the Bill of Rights is for Human Beings. See the Women's International League for Peace And Freedom's Website on Corporations vs. Democracy. I would also suggest that you read Luigi Cerri's paper on "Corporate Personhood vs. Economic Democracy". The economy is crap for most everyone in America. There is a New Great Republican Depression. We are on the beginning of it. This New Great Republican Depression is going to be GLOBAL. The dollar's devaluation against the Euro by 54 percent over the past 4 years is only the beginning of it. I am a neo-abolitionist; The privilege of incorporation should only be granted where it serves society and should only be granted for a limited period of time, no more than 40 years, just as it was in America from our nation's inception through 1880. The economy is only the tip of the iceburg. We are on the brink of becoming a neo-fascist third world country if we don't return to traditional economics and trade policy, and no corporation should ever have any decision making power in the social policies of government. We need to restore the constitution and American Democracy.

3:17 PM  
Blogger Michael Andre said...

I agree with Christian Williams. I particularly like the quote from Eisenhower, who saved us for a time from so much Hell. But Kirby doesn't allow himself to be disturbed by facts. I'm just back from visiting family in Canada, and the fact that the American greenback has shrunk to insignificance under Bush was painfully evident with every meal I bought.

5:21 AM  
Blogger Kirby Olson said...

No one in this country is starving as they were during the time of Dickens. No one goes to the poorhouse. These are false assertions. Everyone is happy, and doing fine.

It is the equivalent of claiming that Bush is Hitler. But there is no one who would rather have Hitler in the White House. Another corollary: no difference between Bush and Osama. But then no one in America would actually want to exchange the two.

Housing prices are coming down: this is actually good for everyone.

Unemployment is way down: around 4%.

There are a few places where Democratic policies have created blight: the destruction of New Orleans by Katrina thanks to the slovenly hysterical actions of their mayor and the sloth of their mindless governor, and to decades of neglect of the dikes by inveterate gamblers and shiftless no-good rascals who would rather line their bank accounts with the funds for building and hope the rain comes another day.

We need to get the asylums up and running again so that the poets can get their meds on a daily basis.

"The economy is crap for most everyone in America."

Substitute facts and figures from reliable sources for this. How many people have died from hunger in America in the last six months?

Aside from a few upper class anorexics busy trying to get on the cover of People magazine? I'd hazard a guess that the answer is zero.

Compare Dickens' London. Is there any real, honest comparison?

7:17 AM  
Blogger Michael Andre said...

"No one starves in America." One or two per cent don't get enough to eat. They die, though, from inadequate medical care. The United States has the worst and most expensive medical system in the developed world. Dickens did portray London as a dreadful place but in Martin Chuzzlewit he depicts the U.S. as worse. It's still worse, only now it's much worse.

4:56 AM  
Blogger Kirby Olson said...

Children and the indigent have free access to health care. They can apply at ANY hospital and the hospital HAS TO BY LAW TAKE THEM IN. The government eats the money. This is kept secret more or less but it's true.

I know because I had a kidney stone once and had a 9000 dollar bill to pay. I told them, please kill me. They said, no, it's free, have a nice day.

People live forever in this country are you kidding. The AVERAGE lifespan is mid-70s, and that's with all the dead babies at birth, and so on.

We're practically a nation of Pharoahs.

10:49 AM  
Blogger Kirby Olson said...

For most of my life i have had no insurance. Until I was forty. I would just waltz into a hospital and say, please fix my kidney stone. Please fix my eyeball, it's gotten too big, etc.

They would fix it, and bill the government.

This is such an amazing country!

But you communists are ruining it.

It only works because of private property. That's what gives everybody a stake in this country. But now you have floods of people who get out of universities and don't know why the country is so great. They think we should turn it into Myanmar, and then we would be in hog heaven.

Myanmar is oink oink.

10:51 AM  
Blogger Michael Andre said...

Americans with money or health insurance have regular health care. Paupers avail themselves of Emergency Rooms. In the developed world, excluding the United States, everyone has regular health care. The United States is uniquely unjust, uniquely hideous.

2:43 PM  

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